Peter, a person under assistance in Taiwan & Germany

Tien, Yu-Tzu

Li, Yu-Lin

Xie, Dai-Ling

Friederike Basten

Nicole Görtz

Julia Peetz

Melinda Titze

Peter’s case outline & possible issues

Peter’s case

Residence and risk of homelessness

Peter Y. has mental health issues and lives in an apartment in Cologne or in Taipei. He is supported by a professional Betreuerin who has a scope of function covering: financial affairs, affairs concerning administration and social welfare and affairs around the apartment, or is under assistance. One day Peter Y. expresses his decision to stop paying the rent for the apartment. The consequence following this decision would be that he delays payment of the rent and the landlord has the right to terminate the contract after two months.

The Betreuerin/the assistant tries to explain the situation and the risk of losing the apartment. Peter Y. then answers that he won´t lose the apartment because “somebody” told him paying the rent is not necessary. The Betreuer/the assistant decides to wait but after three weeks Peter Y. did not change his decision. He is still convinced that he does not have to pay the rent and may use the money for what he wants.

The Betreuerin/the assistant asks herself what she is obliged to do. The Dilemma: If she does not arrange the payment, the landlord will terminate the contract. Peter Y. likes his apartment very much and it would be very difficult to find a new apartment for him. Peter Y. does not want to live on the street or in an accommodation for homeless people.

Peter’s case

Peter’s possible issues

Law of Assistance in civil code

in Taiwan & Germany

an adult is unable to manage affairs due to mental health issues, the court shall appoint a “Betreuer”.

Civil Code

§1896 Requirements

§1897 Public appointment of a natural person

court appoints a natural person who is suitable to act as a guardian in the area of responsibility determined by the court.

financial affairs

affairs concerning administration social welfare

health care

affairs of the apartment

Residence determination

§1901 Scale of Betreuung, Duties of the Betreuer

“Betreuer” shall comply with the will of the person being cared for insofar as this does not run counter to his or her best interests

The difference between Assistant in Taiwan & Betreuer in Germany

Difference 1 : Having a Psychiatric assessment?

People with disabilities

Disease Diagnosis

/Disability Certification

Psychiatric assessment

Taiwan Germany

VV

at least / expected at least /expected

mandatory common

Difference 2 : Who would be the Assistant / Betreuer ? Who is usually the Assistant in Taiwan?

Taiwan: Assistants are mostly family members.

Resources : Pei-Chi Hu, Shih-Chun HuangAn Empirical Study on the Court Cases Regarding the Appointment of Adult GuardianFT Law Review & Publications Vol.218 (2018 / 04 / 01)

Difference 2 : Who would be the Assistant / Betreuer ? Who is usually the Betreuer* in Germany?

Difference 3 : Rights of the Assistant/Betreuer

 

Taiwan

Germany

 

 

 

power

power of approval

the delegated power

 

 

 

 

 

financial affairs

 

significant financial

administration

 

social welfare

scope

affairs and any

health care

 

procedural action

 

affairs of the apartment

 

 

 

 

residence determination

 

 

 

Peter-centered approach

Framework of our solutions

1.Affirm possible issues for Peter

Who is “somebody” ?

Does Peter understand the consequence of not paying the rent?

Could the Betreuer/Assistant pay the rent by using Peter’s money without his permission?

2.Work with Peter

Establish good rapport with him.

Collect information about Peter & what resources we have.

Confirm Peter’s ‘will & needs’

3.After conversationDecision making : ?/pay the rent.

Taiwan: Peter can decide by himself without the assistant’s approval.

Germany: respect Peter’s ‘true will’, decision made by Peter insofar as this does not run counter to his best interests.

Possible issue 1

Who is “somebody” ?

Who is “SOMEBODY”?

Why should we know who “SOMEBODY” is?

If ‘somebody’ is not a real person, but Peter's hallucination…

Does Peter need some medical assistance?

If ‘somebody’ is a real person

Will the person affect Peter's life?

Possible issue 2

Does Peter understand the consequence of not paying the rent?

What could a Psychologist do for Peter?

1.Have an interview with Peter.

2.Structure of the Interview:

The Purpose of Interview

Preparation before the Interview

Communication Considerations

During the Interview

The purpose of interview

Before Peter finally decides whether to pay the rent

We hope that through the support of social workers or psychologists, we can have in-depth discussions with Peter to help him make a decision that meets his personal wishes.

Preparation before the interview

Consider what factors will affect Peter’s condition

For the interview

Where should we choose?

And, what time would be better for Peter?

In this case, Peter said that “somebody” told him not to pay the rent

Delusion and hallucination may affect his cognitive abilities

Communication considerations

Find a family member or friend who knows Peter best, and get to know his emotional reactions or special habits.

During the interview, we should pay attention to:

Peter’s non-verbal behavior, e.g.: shaking his head

Peter's condition, e.g.: depression, tiredness and whether Peter is concentrating on the conversation

Why Peter refuses or does not know how to answer questions

Don't agree or disagree with Peter's statement, but keep an open and accepting attitude.

During the interview

If there are multiple interviews, we should first build rapport with Peter in each interview.

How do we build rapport with Peter during the interview?

What else can we do when we build rapport with Peter?

Evaluate his memory and attention

During the interview

After building rapport with Peter, how can we get down to business?

Focus on 4 parts:

Who?

What?

When?

Where?

During the interview

Why don't we confirm his wishes directly?

Ask and understand what Peter "knows", respect Peter's right to state his opinions and experiences, and then identify points that need further discussion

How to help Peter understand that he must continue paying the rent to keep the house?

Peter should have the right to obtain correct information (facts)

Finally, we want to

When Peter knows the correct information, based on Peter's personal wishes and considerations, assist Peter in deciding whether to continue paying the rent.

How to confirm his willingness?

Possible issue 3

Could the Betreuer/Assistant pay the rent by using Peter’s money without his permission?

Making the decision— Pay the rent / ?

After all the conversations, the Betreuerin/ the Assistant will may make the decision as follows:

The Betreuer thinks that ‘to live in the apartment’ is Peter’s true will and is his best interest.

The Assistant : Peter can decide by himself without the Assistant’s approval because paying for the rent or not is beyond article 15-2 paragraph 1.

The problem cannot be solved in these frameworks

There is no regular report system to supervise the decision made by the Assistant.

Although we value and want to respect Peter's decision-making ability, we still have to admit that there are limitations within the regulations and practice. (e.g. it’s hard to confirm ‘true’ will; dilemma may still exist after conversation, so the final decision may go against one of Peter’s wills.)

In Taiwan’s regulatory system, the Assistant does not have any power to give approval for paying the rent or not→ It is doubtful that Peter can be responsible for his decision, especially regarding the consequence of a loss.

Pros & Cons of the two different systems

Taiwan:

pros: The scope of decision making of the person under assistance in Taiwan is larger than that in Germany.

cons: According to article 15-2 paragraph 1, the scope of the Assistant's consent power is not specific and full-fledged enough to cover all the daily routines.

Germany:

pros: True will of the person is important for a decision.

cons: Sometimes decision-making process is very long (e.g. because of court).

Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs

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According to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs

Basically, it is important to balance between basic needs and high-level-needs (Physiological vs. Self-Actualization).

But in some particular situations (such as paying the rent or not), which relate to safety or physiological needs, basic needs should be given priority to high-level-needs.

Thank

you

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